Wednesday, July 21, 2010

Breaking Down The Sexually Shy Wife

Mostly my focus here is on the assumption that the wife in the relationship has a normal sex drive. Once the the husband returns to showing a sexy profile and behavior, her normal sex drive for him kicks back in and the sex starts happening again. That's an easy fix. You can get that turned around in a couple of months no problem.

However I'm pretty much assuming that readers have the common sense to rule out potential medical issues. There's little hope of getting more sex from her from gaming her if her hormones are all out of whack for example. If the low sex issue stems from ovarian cancer for example... I think I see the problem. You have to go rule out medical issues first.

The other area I haven't covered is the wife having a normal sexual desire, but a blockage in her related to anxiety, fear, lack of sex education, trauma, nervousness etc. Simply dialing up the Alpha isn't going to make a "Shy Wife" become more sexual with you, in fact it may become too stimulating and simply drive her deeper into her anxiety. Ironically the behavior that can unpick her locks is actually adding in Beta comfort building. The comfort building decreases her anxiety and she can fully relax enough to enjoy everything.

Here's an example... I've had some recent email from a reader with a very anxious skittish wife when it comes to sex. Go read the shower post first if you can't remember it and zip back here.

"Very good stuff. I loved the shower pass post. She locks the door to shower, so I think I'm going to get a stick at the ready to pick the lock...probably in a couple weeks when she's ovulating."

See for a normal wife the playful Alpha invasion of her space in the shower and silly one liners is experienced as enjoyable attention. It turns her on. In fact the gaming of her comes from the way you don't have sex with her. You're teasing her!

But Very Shy Wife has the door locked to the shower. Specifically to keep her husband out. (And yes that is worrisome in and of itself that she is that wound up, but no "leave the bitch" comments please it doesn't actually help towards a solution.)  So if he pops the lock and marches into the bathroom with a hard on, she will probably experience this the same way a normal wife would experience a SWAT team entering the bathroom. She's going to scream in terror, try and cover herself with a hand bra, plus likely fall over and cry.

Not as hawt as intended.

The proper approach is to let her know the overall plan. Yes this takes away the element of surprise, but that's the point. Then you break down the process into a number of smaller steps. The first change would be to have her shower with the door simply unlocked. That's it. Maybe do that for a week or so. Then the next step is to have him come into the bathroom while she showers. Have a conversation in there, he can brush his teeth or something. Maybe a week of that. Then the next step is opening the shower door while he's in there, a week of that. Then he can get in with her and wash her back.

Is this long and tedious? It sure is. But it also might work a lot better than popping the lock and rocking the cock at her. It does take a slow steady pressure to continue to advance through the steps though. Each level comes with a discomfort that needs to be politely presented and passed through. The Alpha doesn't let her off the hook of development, the Beta praises and soothes. You must have both tools in the toolbox.
As each step is made there's praise and positive attention. As long as progress is being made in the direction you want, you just stick with the process. You're not going to go from Very Shy Wife to Trained Slutty Wife in a single day, or a week, or maybe even a year. But you can make constant progress towards that goal. It's all vastly easier with her consent to have her limits purposely pushed, but you can make progress with rewarding the behavior you wish to see anyway, it's just slower.

Back in the beginning Jennifer was extremely shy and from her upbringing was basically sexually naive. If you give a girl an orgasm when she doesn't know what an orgasm even is, that's about the best Display of High Value possible. I remember that much of the first month of sex she lay there stiff as a board and soundless. I considered adding a strobe light to the bedroom to make it look like she was moving.

We've always had a lot of sex, but early on it was fairly bad sex compared to now, though I was just so excited to be getting laid I thought it was awesome. But each time got a little better. And I gently pushed back her boundaries, I didn't force her, just wore her down with expressions of enjoyment, pleasure for her, praise and thanking. It did take a while and we are still learning things together even now. Now she relishes doing things that once made her nervous. Now she's positively slutty with me in the manner of my choosing. What's not to love about that. (Though she does remain leery of the thing with the jumper cables and the butter.)

There was an understanding between us that we were going to push her boundaries together. She was comfortable in her discomfort. I didn't yell, hit, threaten to leave, pout etc. Just a slow steady push to move in the direction of more sexy. There's a world of difference between "suck it or get out" and "kissing me there is nice, lick me a little". The Tortoise beats the Hare in the story you know.





It's an old joke between us that I've corrupted her and am "a very bad man". I always say that's why she likes me so much. She always nuzzles into me after I say that. She's actually thankful I've made her like some of this stuff.

12 comments:

  1. Good post. I have to say that I am a woman who enjoys being sexual with somebody I love. I have showered with my love often. But I could NEVER, in a milion years, live under the same roof as a person who would pick the lock that I'd decided to lock. That would be a violation along the lines of "asshole" not "alpha".

    (Besides, not everything that happens in a bathroom is all that sexy. . . )

    Keep in mind that a segment sexually shy women may have experienced some kind of trauma in their past. It's okay to talk about what you would like from her. It's okay to explain how important sexual behaviour is to you. It's NOT okay to imply that you're going to get what you want, whether she consents or not, even if all you want is simply a shower together. It may not seem like a big deal when you've already seen her naked so many times. However, the SYMBOLISM of making sure that you get explicit consent for an action can be a big deal to some women. If you're not sure whether your wife is one of those women, you should find out through honest communication.

    To be clear, I'm not saying you need to ask permission each time you kiss or touch your wife. There is some implied consent in long term relationships. However, a locked door indicates a desire for privacy. If you want to enter the private, asking permission will get a better response than completely ignoring her desire for privacy.
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  2. In that particular case I had asked the reader if there was abuse prior to him becoming involved with his wife. I haven't had a response. Which worries me somewhat.
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  3. These wives don't know how good they have it. I'm thin, young, and good-looking and my husband won't touch me with a ten foot pole unless its been a week. Usually more. An no, not cheating or gay, just tired of the usual. Some wives are lucky :(
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  4. Anyone who would cry "ditch the bitch, I'm alpha!" has missed the whole point of PUA, especially of PUA in LTRs. Subtlety and escalation are the keys. If you're in a LTR, then you have the time and privilege of playing the long game.

    Good post.
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  5. Anon@11:19: Ditto on that sentiment! I've been married a LONG time, my husband is older than me anyway, and in that cruel-joke-of-the-universe way, my libido seems to be going into overdrive (last gasp?). Always have been blessed (or cursed) with high libido. This is a great blog, but when I read these accounts of extreme sexual timidity/reluctance in some women, I feel like I'm reading about a strange subculture.

    Athol, know of anything I can slip into husband's morning coffee to get things perking?
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  6. Hi Anon 1:27.

    Sucks, doesn't it? I have a fairly high libido too, but mostly I have a very low tolerance for rejection. I do not like to feel unwanted or undesired, especially when I make an effort to look good. Not being approached for sex is the ultimate rejection. No matter how many times my husband says I have a great body or a beautiful face (which he does often) it is completely devoid of meaning.

    I remember watching a scene from the movie "Far From Heaven" where all the housewives complain about their husbands insatiable sexual appetites and the lead actress (who ain't getting shit!) just kind of smile sadly. Bah. Humbug.
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  7. Nice post about the limitations of the alpha approach. It is worth mentioning that it takes more than a week in each stage. Women have natural cycles and the ovulation cycle is the time to cover new ground, while the rest of the month you just hold position.

    The questions of past sexual history (as well as medical history) are important ones to ask. That all has a huge impact on us.

    Sympathies for the anonymous women complaining about their husbands' sex drives. It's always something.
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  8. Anon - ok you are thin and young BUT that is not all a man needs for a hard on. Your man might like a little cushion. Or it could be a matter of attitude. Too often sex with a certain woman feels like work instead of the pleasure it could be...Make him your hero and see how he reacts.
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  9. What if she refuses to participate at all, under any circumstances? She won't shower with the door unlocked even, never mind go to another stage? Then what?
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  10. Anon 3:42 - I'm pretty much imagining that all sex is shut down then. Follow The MAP and see if she will change.
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  11. Some women don't actually WANT to be broken down. Bet you never thought of that...
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  12. Some women don't actually WANT to be broken down. Bet you never thought of that...

    And that's fine if they don't want to be. They just shouldn't entrap a man in a marriage when he wants a good sex life. That would be quite cruel don't you think?
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